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A mimochodem, Oklahoma by se vrátila taky, protože její poškození nebylo z největších, ale problém byl v tom, že jako jediná z Battleship Row neměla parní turbíny, ale stále jen parní stroje. Její obnova by se tedy velmi výrazně prodražila .....
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Ono by asi nešlo jen o to vyměnit to. Náhrada stroje turbínami by asi zahrnovala dost velkou přestavbu a pokud se k tomu připočetlo, že Oklahoma patřila mezi nejstarší battleshipy .... Jinak její poškození bylo daleko menší než u West Virginie nebo Californie.
Obecně se uvádí, že hlavním důvodem toho, že nebyla opravena byla celková zastaralost pohonného systému ....
Obecně se uvádí, že hlavním důvodem toho, že nebyla opravena byla celková zastaralost pohonného systému ....
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v reportech spousty zajimavejch fotek
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celovy obecny report skod:
PEARL HARBOR, T. H., December 12, 1941
Secret
From: Commander-in-Chief, United States Pacific Fleet.
To: The Chief of Naval Operations.
Subject: Damage to Ships of the Pacific Fleet resulting from Enemy Attacks at
Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941.
References:
(a) Cincpac Secret Desp. 072244 of December 1941.
(b) Cincpac Secret Desp. 081015 of December 1941.
(c) Cincpac Secret Desp. 100220 of December 1941.
(d) Cincpac Secret Desp. 102043 of December 1941.
1. The following report relative to damage sustained by ships of the Pacific
Fleet resulting from enemy attacks on 7 December 1941 is submitted. This
amplifies reports submitted by references (a) to (d) inclusive:
(a) Battleships.
ARIZONA sunk at berth as result of aircraft torpedoes and heavy bombs which
exploded forward magazines. Ship is considered to be a total wreck.
CALIFORNIA sunk at berth as a result of hits by two or more aircraft
torpedoes; also received one large bomb hit amidships which caused serious
fire. Recommendations regarding salvage and repairs will be forwarded later.
NEVADA damaged by heavy bombs, possible mine in the channel and aircraft
torpedoes. Beached across from hospital point to prevent sinking after an
attempt to sortie. Batteries intact and manned though no power is on the ship.
Recommendations regarding salvage and repairs will be made later
OKLAHOMA capsized at berth as a result of receiving three or more hits by
aircraft torpedoes. Recommendations regarding salvage will be made later.
PENNSYLVANIA slightly damaged by bomb hit, starboard side of boat deck while
in drydock number 1, Navy Yard, Pearl Harbor. Repairs have been completed and
ship is ready for service.
MARYLAND damaged by bomb hit on forecastle and near miss. Ship was moved
to the Navy Yard on 11 December and is expected to be fully ready for service
13 December.
TENNESSEE received one heavy bomb through turret top which did not explode,
but put 2 rammers out of commission. Also one bomb hit aft which cracked one
14" gun. Heat from the ARIZONA fire melted and ignited paint in after portion
of the second deck which was badly burned out. Ship is now heavily wedged to
mooring by reason of the WEST VIRGINIA leaning against her. Steps are being
taken to dynamite the mooring to permit the removal of the TENNESSEE. Repairs
are proceeding and it is estimated that by 14 December ship will be ready for
service less one 14" gun.
WEST VIRGINIA sunk at berth as result of four aircraft torpedoes and one bomb
hit. There is considerable damage from fire. Recommendations regarding salvage
and repairs will be made later.
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celovy obecny report skod:
PEARL HARBOR, T. H., December 12, 1941
Secret
From: Commander-in-Chief, United States Pacific Fleet.
To: The Chief of Naval Operations.
Subject: Damage to Ships of the Pacific Fleet resulting from Enemy Attacks at
Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941.
References:
(a) Cincpac Secret Desp. 072244 of December 1941.
(b) Cincpac Secret Desp. 081015 of December 1941.
(c) Cincpac Secret Desp. 100220 of December 1941.
(d) Cincpac Secret Desp. 102043 of December 1941.
1. The following report relative to damage sustained by ships of the Pacific
Fleet resulting from enemy attacks on 7 December 1941 is submitted. This
amplifies reports submitted by references (a) to (d) inclusive:
(a) Battleships.
ARIZONA sunk at berth as result of aircraft torpedoes and heavy bombs which
exploded forward magazines. Ship is considered to be a total wreck.
CALIFORNIA sunk at berth as a result of hits by two or more aircraft
torpedoes; also received one large bomb hit amidships which caused serious
fire. Recommendations regarding salvage and repairs will be forwarded later.
NEVADA damaged by heavy bombs, possible mine in the channel and aircraft
torpedoes. Beached across from hospital point to prevent sinking after an
attempt to sortie. Batteries intact and manned though no power is on the ship.
Recommendations regarding salvage and repairs will be made later
OKLAHOMA capsized at berth as a result of receiving three or more hits by
aircraft torpedoes. Recommendations regarding salvage will be made later.
PENNSYLVANIA slightly damaged by bomb hit, starboard side of boat deck while
in drydock number 1, Navy Yard, Pearl Harbor. Repairs have been completed and
ship is ready for service.
MARYLAND damaged by bomb hit on forecastle and near miss. Ship was moved
to the Navy Yard on 11 December and is expected to be fully ready for service
13 December.
TENNESSEE received one heavy bomb through turret top which did not explode,
but put 2 rammers out of commission. Also one bomb hit aft which cracked one
14" gun. Heat from the ARIZONA fire melted and ignited paint in after portion
of the second deck which was badly burned out. Ship is now heavily wedged to
mooring by reason of the WEST VIRGINIA leaning against her. Steps are being
taken to dynamite the mooring to permit the removal of the TENNESSEE. Repairs
are proceeding and it is estimated that by 14 December ship will be ready for
service less one 14" gun.
WEST VIRGINIA sunk at berth as result of four aircraft torpedoes and one bomb
hit. There is considerable damage from fire. Recommendations regarding salvage
and repairs will be made later.
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california dostala dve torpeda. oklahoma dostala devet torped (a ze japonska torpeda byla kvalitni vyrobky netreba pochybovat), z toho cast nad caru ponoru a vetsinu na stred. takze bylo asi ekonomicky vyhodnejsi poslat 30 let starou a zastaralou bitevni lod do srotu.. chtelo by se rict "a nechat to pojistovnu odepsat jako totalku"
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http://sklep.gpm.pl/modele-kartonowe/sa ... l-i-lasery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Zdravim,
zatim nabizime vicemene jenom architekturu, ktere nam nyni prislo doplneni a mame zase vetsinu skladem
http://bit.do/gpm-skladem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
zatim nabizime vicemene jenom architekturu, ktere nam nyni prislo doplneni a mame zase vetsinu skladem
http://bit.do/gpm-skladem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Tak z toho lze jen profitovat když je z čeho vybírat, vymakanější a dražší model od Halinského a pak o něco jednodušší a levnější kousek od GPM( počítám, že bude vycházet z jejich staršího kousku, stejně jako nedávno zrecyklovali F-4 Phantom a mig-21). Nakonec pamatuji, že jsi Kubo žehral při vydání Halinského Me 262, že mohli dát noční verzi:)
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tak zehral je silne slovo.. nicmene to ze Hal vytezi platformu dalsimi verzemi je nasnade, na to neni treba byt vestec. To ze GPM bude jednodussi nez Hal je taky jasne. GPM koupim jen co to vyleze, pocitam ze to bude recolor + drobna uprava te puvodni (kterou mam mimochodem rozestavenou asi 5 let, hanba mi). Ja tohle ero proste miluju..
kazdopadne, stejne jako doktor uspesne tezi Tatrovky, urcite by mohli tito vyrobci casem tezit vlastovku, je mnoho velmi atraktivnich verzi - krome flekateho myslivce s parohama tu mame schnellbomber s prosklenou pridi pro bombometcika, 083 s padesatkou v emericke kamuflazi.. koneckoncu, i pomerne nudna S/CS-92 by pro nas mohla byt atraktivni.
EDIT: na webu se objevily fotky slepeneho modelu. http://sklep.gpm.pl/modele-kartonowe/sa ... 1-schwalbe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
kazdopadne, stejne jako doktor uspesne tezi Tatrovky, urcite by mohli tito vyrobci casem tezit vlastovku, je mnoho velmi atraktivnich verzi - krome flekateho myslivce s parohama tu mame schnellbomber s prosklenou pridi pro bombometcika, 083 s padesatkou v emericke kamuflazi.. koneckoncu, i pomerne nudna S/CS-92 by pro nas mohla byt atraktivni.
EDIT: na webu se objevily fotky slepeneho modelu. http://sklep.gpm.pl/modele-kartonowe/sa ... 1-schwalbe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;